The television personalities Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King have been known to be best friends for many years. In a new interview this week, Oprah became emotional as she admitted just how important Gayle really is in her life.

While appearing on “The Drew Barrymore Show” on Friday, Oprah explained to host Drew Barrymore that despite all that she’s been through in her life, she never went to therapy.

“I never had therapy — I had all my therapy on television in front of all of y’all — and what I realized … is that Gayle was my regulation,” she said. “It makes me want to cry now thinking about it. Every night after the show, I would come home, and I would have these sessions with Gayle where we talked about what happened on the show, or what didn’t happen on the show, and that was the way I kind of regulated myself. So, I would talk to Gayle before bed, and then I would be calmer.”

Oprah went on to admit that she came to this realization only recently.

“And it wasn’t until I not only was co-authoring the book but actually went back and re-read the book that I realized, ‘Oh Gayle was what I used for my sense of regulation,’ and is still the person in my life,” she said. “I have probably three people in my life who are going to tell me the truth no matter what.”

Oprah went on to talk about how Drew’s show has changed her life.

“You have changed my life, you certainly changed my work life because I was there for that very first show where you beamed in Cameron [Diaz] and there you all were and we didn’t know that you all weren’t in the same space,” Oprah said, referring to Drew’s “Charlie’s Angels” co-star appearing on her debut show as an ultra-realistic hologram.

“I watched that and said, ‘Hey, why can’t we do what Drew did?’ And since that time for ‘Oprah Conversations’ for Apple TV+, the first time I did it was with President Barack Obama talking about his book Promised Land and there we were, sitting right across from each other in my living room in front of the fireplace, and I said then, this is because of you Drew, so thank you,” Oprah added.