Days after Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s bombshell tell-all interview with Oprah Winfrey aired, royal expert Katie Nicholl is speaking out to say that Prince William was left “devastated” by it.

“William is devastated by this interview. Don’t forget that the Duchess of Cambridge is being dragged into this whole saga and William will hate that and of course, relationship between father and son is of course at an all-time low,” Nicholl told Entertainment Tonight.

“I think that the idea that Kate’s being dragged into this will be upsetting for Kate who behind the scenes has tried really hard to be a peacemaker between William and Harry,” the expert continued. “She has been deeply saddened by the brothers’ falling out. Don’t forget she was incredibly close to Harry herself.”

Nicholl went on to say that it is unclear at this time what sort of relationship Harry and William will have going forward.

“Harry has said time is a healer and it is,” she said. “But I think there are so many raw emotions here, that it’s far too early to talk about any kind of family reunion.”

Nicholl took issue with one moment in the interview in which Harry said that his brother is trapped, saying that this was unfair of him to say.

“Harry was born in a very different role than William — he was born the spare, William the heir,” she explained. “William has always known what his duty and birthright has been. I’m sure there’s times when he’s resented the establishment he’s born into and there’s been times he’s kicked back at it. … There are times certainly when William has struggled with his birthright, but to suggest that he’s trapped in the institution, I don’t think it’s true and I don’t think it’s probably Harry’s place to say in any case.”

As for their father Prince Charles, Nicholl said that he had been “despairing over the interview” in the days leading up to it. Harry did indeed make negative comments about his father to Oprah, claiming that Charles had stopped taking his calls when talking about he and Meghan stepping down from the royal family.

“There came a point where Charles simply didn’t want to hear anymore what Harry and Meghan were proposing,” Nicholl said. “Instead, he asked him to put in an email, something Harry didn’t want to do because he was convinced it would leak and Harry was absolutely right. It did leak to the press and that’s why he took matters into his own hands.”

“Charles certainly does not come out a winner in all of this,” she added. “Harry has said he felt let down by his father. It must have been a very difficult thing for Harry to say publicly, but even a difficult thing for Prince Charles to hear. … Certainly, in the run-up to the wedding, Charles was supportive of them. He was thrilled on the day to walk Meghan down the aisle. He and his son, Meghan and [his wife] Camilla, had a close relationship at that time that Charles invited them to come stay with them at the castle in Scotland — a privilege that not many people are afforded.”

“So, this closeness quickly turned into resentment and detachment when Charles wouldn’t sit down and discuss what Harry and Meghan wanted for the future on the phone and that’s when we understand the relationship unraveled,” she concluded. “But for Charles to hear that he felt let down by Harry will be very, very painful indeed.”