Chip and Joanna Gaines are known for being an incredibly successful power couple, but things were not always so easy for them.

Chip and Joanna are the proud owners of Magnolia, a brand that sells decor, apparel, jewelry, books, magazines and more. In a new interview with Us Weekly, Joanna talked about the struggles she and Chip faced while they built this brand up.

“Chip and his family have always had this thing that Gaines never quit, so he’d say, ‘Jo, we’re not going to quit, we’re going to make it through this,’” Joanna said.

Though they were determined to never give up, Joanna admitted that there were moments in which they “would look at each other and just think, ‘How are we going to make it?’ Not seeing the end — not understanding you could actually get through it.”

She also confessed that they wanted to “bail and get out” at times because it “seemed so much easier” than working through their struggles.

Thankfully, Chip and Joanna made it through these struggles by working through them as a team.

“We leaned on each other’s strengths in those moments of weakness where I would typically only see the glass half-empty and Chip would see the glass half-full,” Joanna remembered.

“Just that kind of thinking really helped me go, ‘OK, I can do this.'”

She added that there is “a lot of power in that” mindset.

“When you decide I’m not quitting, there isn’t a plan B, we’re going to make it through that, that shift changes the momentum of things,” Joanna explained.

Chip agreed with her, saying that “there doesn’t need to be a plan B.”

“It’s sort of like the old history lesson about the sailor or the explorer that literally decided to burn their boat so that they understood there’s no plan B, but I really learned that firsthand,” he said.

Joanna also said that their go-get-’em attitude helped them in the long run, success did not come right away.

“It doesn’t change it overnight. For us, it was four or five more years of hardship,” she revealed.

“Even though we were, like, ‘We’re in it,’ it didn’t mean that all of a sudden everything was going to be easy and we were going to make it.”

Joanna concluded by offering words of encouragement to her fans.

“There is something about the momentum and the thinking of, ‘We’re going to make it through this, and who knows what it’s going to look like on the other side,'” Joanna said.

“But the one thing I can say is, when I look back, I’m so thankful. We would have missed this moment. We would have missed a lot if we would have just pivoted and gone in another direction because it was easier.”

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