Just when it seemed like things could not get any worse for Ellen DeGeneres, an Australian television host has come forward to talk about a “bizarre” encounter he allegedly had with her that lends credence to the claims about her diva-like behavior behind the scenes.

Australian television and radio host Neil Breen just came forward to recount an experience he had trying to set up an interview with DeGeneres back in 2013, when he was executive producer of the Australian version of the “TODAY” show. While the initial plan was for DeGeneres to cohost the morning show, the producers kept changing the plan until they set it up so that she wasn’t even going to come to Sydney, where the show is filmed.

“The whole thing got watered down to, Ellen DeGeneres would do a sit-down interview, right?” Breen told 4BC. “We took the whole ‘Today’ show to Melbourne at our expense but she would do a sit-down interview with Richard Wilkins. So Richard Wilkins and I went to one of the flashy hotels in Melbourne, where this was all set up, just the two of us. Of course, because it’s the ‘Ellen Show,’ they controlled everything. So they controlled the interview seats, the lights, how it would work, everything.”

After sarcastically calling this meeting a “brush with fame” for him and Wilkins, Breen revealed the bizarre set of rules he was told to follow when meeting DeGeneres.

“We walk in and then the ‘Ellen Show’ producers, there was a lot of them, there was a lot of people there,” he explained. “Anyway the producers called us aside and said ‘OK this is how it’s going to work here this morning. Ellen is going to arrive at 10:15 and she’ll be sitting in this chair here and Richard you’ll be sitting in this chair here. Now Neil, no one is to talk to Ellen. So you don’t talk to her, you don’t approach her, you don’t look at her, she’ll come in, she’ll sit down, she’ll talk to Richard and then Ellen will leave and we’ll give you the thing.”